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LORD means Baal! Repent you Heretic!


LORD means Baal, so your bible is pagan and if you use it, your following a false god! Repent you Heretic!

Seriously?

Where the word 'LORD' means 'Baal' and if you use the word LORD you're invoking the name of a false god which means you could be in big trouble on judgment day.

This concerned me so I looked up the first instance in the KJV that uses the word LORD and its found in Genesis 2:4 (overall its used 7,836 times in the KJV). Since the name YHWH is not found with any vowels its hard to say how to exactly pronounce the name. With that said, if pronouncing the name was so important we would expect to see Yeshua, the disciples and prophets teach on this a lot.... but we don't. Hmmm... that makes me wonder about people who are deaf, mute or those who have a speech impediment, are they doomed to hell because of their affliction? I don't think so but lets get back on topic.

In the OT, Genesis 2:4 we see the word LORD. In Strong's Concordance we see that it is the Hebrew word יְהֹוָה YHWH H3068 we see YHWH defined as 'the existing One', 'the self-Existent or Eternal one'. The root of this is הָיָה Hayah H1961 meaning "to be", "to exist". One of the other primitive root words is אָוָה Avah H183 "to desire", "to want", "to turn aside to lodge", "to dwell".

What is interesting is that it appears that YHWH who exists forever desires to dwell with us! WOW!

What is also very interesting is that and the word "Baal" is not found in the definition in any way, shape or form. So where did this claim that LORD means Baal come from? Perhaps this LORD/Baal is in the Greek, so lets check there next.

In the NT, we see the word full capitalized "LORD" used only a few times. One is in Luke 20:42 that states...

"And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, the 'LORD' said unto my Lord, sit thou on my right hand..."

Both instances of the use "LORD" and "Lord" is the Greek word κύριος kyrios, Strong's G2962 and its defined as "he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power deciding; master, lord"; "a title of honor expressive of respect and reverence, with which servants greet their master"; "supreme in authority" and of course "this title is given to: God, the Messiah". The root of kyrios is kuros meaning "supremacy".

Again I cannot find any definition that says LORD or Lord means Baal. To me scripture and its definitions show there is only One who is supreme in authority and He is to whom I belong because I was bought with a price (when Yeshua paid for your and my sins on the cross). I do not see any mention of "Baal" or any reference to a false and or lesser god. Maybe this Baal thing is found when we look up the word "Adonai"? Back to the definitions...

Now I looked up "Adonai" in the KJV but there is nothing found (its not used thousands of times as you claim). However there is one result of the use "Adonai" in the Darby bible ref. 1 Kings 2:26 and in the Vulgate bible ref. Exodus 6:3 (but those are used by the Roman Catholic Church). It should also be noted that those translations do not have Strong's reference numbers. In the fact, I don't use these translations for any biblical studies.

I did some more checking and found the the word 'Lord' in the OT reference Genesis 18:27 which states...

"And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes:"

The word "Lord" used to identify YHWH is the Hebrew word אֲדֹנָי adonay H136. OK! This is the mother load! I bet we find the word Baal associated with this (note the sarcasm). Lets check this out. H136 is defined as "my lord of men", "my lord of God" and "Lord - title, spoken in place of YHWH in Jewish display of reverence". No mention of the word Baal but lets check the Gesenius' Hebrew Chaldea Lexicon.

It states that adonay is ONLY used of YHWH, where He is submissively and reverently addressed as seen many references like Exodus 4:10, 13; Genesis 15:2, 18:30 and many other instances.

However a problem arises because there is still no reference to adonai meaning or referring to Baal. Matter of fact if the Hebrew is correct and I think it is, YHWH calls Himself adonai in Job 28:28 which states...

"And unto man he said, Behold the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding"

We also see YHWH us it again to reference Himself in Isaiah 8:7.

So we still don't see where LORD/YHWH/Adonay means Baal. But lets check the root of adonay. The root of adonay is אָדוֹן adown H113 (its root is an unused root meaning 'to rule'). The Genesius' Hebrew Chaldea Lexicon says is this root means 'to judge', 'to command' and 'to domineer'. Anyway back to the main topic.

Adown is defined as 'firm, strong, lord, master' in which reference is given. Also used in reference to YHWH, the Lord of the whole earth. Other times it can be used of worldly leaders such as men for instance of a husband, father, prophet, governor, prince, priest, theophanic angel (meaning an appearance of God) and or a king. In other words, this can be used in a variety of situations.

The Genenius' Hebrew Chaldea Lexicon states this word can be used of leaders and masters of both heaven and earth as we have shown. It also states that it was found in the Phoenician language that references an idol, but as we saw this word can be used a number of ways depending on the context (be it of YHWH, man, or idols). What I do not see is that it is an expressed title. It should be noted that the GHC Lexicon states 'Adown' is only used of YHWH in many scriptures - so that means its a flexible word that can be used in many ways. It also states that the phrase 'my lord!' is "an address of honor to those who are more noble, and to all to whom respect is due". I continued to read but I still found no mention of Baal.

Now in the Hebrew Adonay is made up of an Aleph, Dalet, Nun and a Yod. In the Paleo Aleph means Strong, Leader. Dalet means Door, Entrance. Nun means Seed, Life. And Yod means Hand, Work, Worship. Could we not say YHWH is a strong leader who's work provided life and entrance into His kingdom? Yea that could work.

So where do we see the first instance of the word Baal? Its found in Numbers 22:41...

"And it came to pass on the morrow, that Balak took Balaam, and brought him up into the high places of Baal, that thence he might see the utmost part of the people."

The word 'Baal' is the Hebrew word בָּמוֹת Badmouth. Its H1120 meaning 'high places' or 'great high place'. Research shows its in reference to the high places where people gave sacrifices, offerings and worship to false god/s as it was thought the higher the place the more acceptable these actions would be to their god/s. BTW it also refers to a town on the river Arnon in Moab but thats not pertinent to this topic. Not much of a definition but when we look in the GHC Lexicon we see its about 'high places' and 'high places of Baal'. The root of this is 'bamah' H1116 and it means 'high place, ridge, height and it can also be a technical name for a cultic platform (the GHC lexicon also says it was used to describe sanctuaries to YHWH or idols). It also says it can applied to any sanctuary, convent, church or temple. We see it can refer to heights such as mountains and fortresses with no religious connotation; and it can also be used in regards to places of worshiping YHWH or of false god/s. Seems to be a pretty flexible word and it depends how and or whom it is used.

Personally I agree that transliterating bible names isn't right - growing up as a child I thought everyone in the bible were Americans or at least they all spoke English (childish right? I never said I was a smart kid). And in that I don't transliterate anyone I meet from Israel or anywhere else, I am with you there.

However, where does this "LORD means Baal" come from? So many people have told me this but not one person can show me using the Hebrew or Greek definitions. So either I am missing something or this LORD/Lord means Baal is a false claim.

#LORD #Baal #Heretic #Truth #Adonai

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